Probably most everyone’s familiar with all this, and I know most everything’s been said, but I thought I’d put in my two cents given my limited experience as a gun nut. As I’m sure everyone knows, police officer Johannes Mehserle’s defense in shooting Oscar Grant is that he thought he was pulling a Taser and instead pulled his handgun, something which, according to the defense, has happened six other times (and more on this later). So how easy would it be to pull a Taser instead of a handgun?
Let’s start with the obvious. According to the same article I linked to above, Mehserle’s firearm was on the right side of his belt — usually known as the strong side hip position, given that he’s right handed — while his taser was on the left side, in what is known as the cross draw position. To illustrate the difference between the two positions, here’s pretty good video of a strong side draw holster and a cross draw holster. They are in as different positions as it is possible to be on a gun belt.
I’m not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I shoot a fair amount, I do presentation and dry-fire exercise a couple of times a week, and I carry every day. And one of the first things I learned about carrying was that my gun had to stay in the same place. That’s the only way I can draw and get a quick sight picture with any kind of consistency. As such, I always know where my carry gun is, and it’s always right where it’s supposed to be, unlike, say, my cell phone, keys, and whatever else I have on me.
And, this should probably go without saying, but I never draw my handgun instead of something else. Not to be flip, but I’ve never accidentally drawn my gun instead of my car keys. Likewise, I’ve never gone to make a phone call and accidentally stuck my gun in my ear. Frankly, I find the idea of accidentally reaching to the wrong side of my gun belt ridiculous.
Which brings us to the difference between Mehserle’s Taser and his handgun. I don’t know a whole lot about law enforcement Tasers, but according to Wikipedia it was a Taser X26, which in bright yellow — the color of his — would look like this:
You can watch a video promo of the X26 here. It’s ergonomically a hell of a lot different than a handgun, as you can probably tell. It’s also a hell of a lot lighter. Different accounts put it at weighing between one half and one third of his sidearm, which was a Sig Sauer P226.
When I first heard about this incident, I assumed Mehserle was carrying a Glock for a sidearm. It seemed the most likely scenario, Glocks being known for being sometimes a little too quick to fire for two reasons:
1. The Glock has no thumb safety. Meaning, that when you pull it out of your holster the only thing you need to do to fire it is pull the trigger. That’s it. And, as such, Glocks are notorious amongst police firearms instructors for being involved in police shooting accidents.
2. Glocks are often considered double-action only handguns, but they’re not really. With a round in the chamber, the trigger breaks at about 5 pounds on most Glocks. That’s pretty typical for a carry gun — my 1911 is set up at 4.5 pounds. It’s not too light, but it’s sure not very heavy (generally speaking, heavier trigger pulls make it harder to be accurate, and it’s a fine balance). And unlike a true double action gun, like a revolver, the Glock takes a fairly short pull to fire — meaning, the trigger doesn’t have to move backward much.
(Neither of those is a knock on Glocks, by the way. I have a Glock that I sometimes carry, and I love it. But I’ve spent a lot of time working with it in dry-fire exercises to make sure I, as the saying goes, keep my booger hook off the bang switch until I’m ready to fire. I don’t think anyone would disagree that it’s more unforgiving than a double action handgun with a manual safety.)
The Sig Sauer P226, however, is noticeably different. Though it also does not have a thumb safety (thanks for correcting me, Tam), when it is carried with a round in the chamber, it is typically carried with the hammer down in true double action mode so that the trigger pull that fires the first round has to raise the hammer before it can drop it. It’s not unlike a revolver’s trigger pull, meaning that it’s a longer motion that runs about 10 pounds. That’s pretty hard to mistake for anything else besides what it is.
And then there’s the difference between the holsters. Now most of this is speculative, because I can’t tell exactly what holsters Mehserle is using, but I do know that Denver cops, like most cops in the nation, use a simple thumb-break holster for their firearm. There’s an example here from Midway USA. To draw the weapon, you first have to hit that leather tab at the top of the holster, popping open the snap. Taser holsters, on the other hand, are usually setup fairly differently. This is a video demonstration of a US Cavalry Taser X26 holster from BLACKHAWK!, one of the biggest police accessory OEMs on the planet:
Interestingly, in this video from the local news channel, at about 1:10, you can see Mehserle struggling with his holster:
There’s a couple of things that can account for the problems Mehserle had with his holster. I’m a bit of a geek on this stuff, and everything I’ve read from Suarez, Cooper, Ayoob, etc., all indicates a severe degradation of motor skills in perceived life threatening situations. But what I find unbelievable is that Mehserle didn’t know what he was drawing given the time it took him to draw it. See, somewhere in that process, his brain had to send the command to hit the thumb-break to release his handgun.
So, even discounting the difference between the positions on the officer’s gun belt, I’m having a hard time believing these two weapons could be mistaken. They’re just too different. If it were a scenario where he was carrying a smaller black Taser and a Glock in similar holsters, I could almost see it — though I’d still be amazed. But in this case, everything is different, from the holster and controls, to the color and weight.
And so, back to that claim that this type of Taser confusion has happened six other times. Well, it hasn’t. Not really. See, according to the San Jose Mercury News:
In the previous incidents, (Taser expert) Meyer said, the officers had black Tasers that were mounted on the same side of the body as the officers’ guns. Mehserle’s Taser was yellow and mounted on the opposite side of his body from his gun.
In other words, this specific kind of accident, with all the particulars listed above, has never happened. Not once. (And, though I can’t find the kind of gun used in the above accidents, I would bet that most, if not all, of them are Glocks.) And that’s precisely why Mehserle was carrying a big, yellow Taser in a crossdraw position:
In fact, Meyer admitted, his analysis of the other cases prompted him to advise Taser International, the company that manufactures the stun gun, to warn police agencies Tasers should always be mounted on the opposite of a police officer’s gun.
Moreover, there’s the discrepancy between Mehserle’s reaction and the reaction of all the rest of those cops involved in Taser confusion:
Most of the officers in those previous incidents also immediately told those they shot and fellow officers that they had made a mistake, began to cry immediately after the shooting, and continually asked about the suspects’ conditions as paramedics worked on those shot.
Mehserle’s only reaction, according to witnesses, was to put his hands to his head and say, “Oh (expletive), oh God, I shot him.” Mehserle did not tell other officers he had made a mistake and did not ask about Grant’s condition during the 10 minutes he stayed on Oakland’s Fruitvale BART platform after the shooting.
Maybe I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look to me like there’s any way Mehserle didn’t mean to shoot Oscar Grant. I don’t know what was going through his head. Maybe he’s just got a real short fuse, maybe he has a few skeletons rattling around in his cranium, maybe he’s just very bad under pressure, or maybe something about Grant drove him nuts.
It’s also possible that he got spooked, thought Grant was moving for a handgun in his pocket, and just panicked. That’s what he claims — that he thought Grant might have a gun. And, interestingly, I’ve never read or seen anything from a single police firearms trainer that would tell you to meet a gun with a Taser: you would always use deadly force in that case.
If you think about it, that’s something that really reeks about this case: Mehserle’s stated reason for pulling his Taser would require him to pull his handgun and fire. In fact, Mehserle never told anyone on the night of the shooting that it was an accident. What he told them, time and time again, was that Oscar Grant was digging in his pocket and might have a gun. I don’t think anything’s quite as damning as that.
That doesn’t mean Mehserle wasn’t stunned afterwards when he realized what he’d done (it doesn’t look premeditated to me). It also doesn’t mean that he doesn’t really, really wish he hadn’t shot Grant — he’d be an idiot not to regret it, given what it’s done to his life. It doesn’t even mean that he’s not genuinely remorseful.
But, at the end of the day, it was murder. The argument that he mistook his handgun for his Taser is just laughable. And I think the only reason the defense got away with that line of shit is because so many people are unconscionably ignorant about firearms and firearms training. I will hazard a guess that there wasn’t a single concealed carry permit holder on the jury. (Something which, given that the trial took place in Los Angeles, is probably a good guess.) I’m betting if the trial had take place in, say, Utah, the outcome would have been very different.
Also, to be honest, I’m a little irritated that Mehserle’s intent has to be argued at all. As a concealed carry permit holder, I’m pretty sure that if I were to shoot somebody, my intent to shoot them would be proven by my, well, having shot them. Any attempt I made to say that I meant to pull pepper spray — which I do sometimes also carry, given the situation — would be laughed out of court. The only question would be whether there was a credible threat which warranted deadly force. As responsibilities go when carrying a gun, this is the most very basic: that you only draw your weapon when you mean to. I don’t think that’s an unfair assumption, either for a CCW permit holder, or a cop.
And I think it’s pretty obvious that Mehserle meant to.
Update: Tamara K. of View From The Porch (and knoxnews.com and Concealed Carry Magazine) left a comment letting me know that I was mistaken about the Sig Sauer P226: it does not have a thumb safety. The post has been updated accordingly. Also, as I keep saying, I’m a novice at all this stuff, so I welcome correction from gun types. If I’ve made mistakes, or if you think I’m just dead wrong, please let me know. I’m getting more and more interested in this, and would like to see opinions from folks who know guns.
Update II: I think I’m gonna troll around a bit and see what some of the gun writers/bloggers have been saying. I’ll post what I find, on either side, in the updates.
Update III: From David Codrea, of The War on Guns, one of my favorite gun blogs (and David is not exactly known for being a raving leftist, not that there’s anything wrong with that):
If Grant had popped a prone Mehserle in the back, what do you think the chances are he’d have gotten off with involuntary manslaughter?
That’s pretty much the question, isn’t it? You think if the roles were reversed Grant would have had any opportunity to argue about intention at the trial?



“The Sig Sauer P226, however, is noticeably different. It does have a thumb safety that must be disengaged for the gun to fire.”
Not unless he was carrying the (very uncommon) single-action-only version.
The P-226 has no mechanical safety, only a decocker. To fire the first shot, nothing needs to be done other than pulling the trigger.
Ouch! Thanks, Tam. I’ll update accordingly.
OK, Tam. Fair enough.
But how about the rest of the argument? Mehserle’s supposed inability to remember which was his left hip and which was his right, for example?
I’m pretty sure if she had problems with the rest of it she would have let me know, Pork. One of the many reasons I like Tam’s writing about guns so much is she’s not exactly reticent with her opinion.
But, yeah, that one point about controls does nothing to convince me that Mehserle didn’t intentionally shoot Grant. That said, I know a few gun types stop in here from time to time, and I’d love to hear their opinion. I can’t imagine a convincing argument for Mehserle’s defense except ignorance of the jury, but I’m always willing to be proven wrong.
(I think I’m gonna subtitle this blog “Where right-wing and left-wing Anarchists meeet.”)
The only information I have about this incident, apart from having known about it, is what’s here, but it seems to me that the subject was never whether he would be held accountable, but why he wouldn’t. Whether it be Amadou Diallo or Mai Lai, the public seems to feel that those put in the line of fire should never be held accountable for irresponsible actions for fear that somehow, to punish incompetence would be to undermine the “system” that “keeps us safe”. I am not, as it turns out, anti law enforcement, but it’s only enforcement if it enforces. The only reason anybody in Abu Ghraib, for example, took heat (and even then, not the ones who condoned the behavior from the upper rank and file) is because they had photo evidence of them being morons, and even then there was a debate. Until these branches of public defense realize that they take on a *responsibility*, not only for us but for themselves, this shit’s going to keep on happening.
If Grant had shot a regular civilian (not a cop) in a similar situation in which he was shot–say he was trying to scare someone–I’d bet he would have been suffered harsher consequences than Mehserle.
Good points, Ian, even though it’s My Lai, not Mai Lai (perhaps you were thinking of a Mai Tai?).
And as for not being opposed to law enforcement, don’t you think that maybe it ought to depend a bit on the nature of the laws at issue?
Just saying.
Yeah, I mean as a good card-carrying anarchist, I like to consider myself automatically anti law enforcement on principle — hence that whole concealed carry thing — but, as Pork points out, it occurs to me that I’ve never seen anything worthy of the name in my life. With trm49, I have a hard time imagining a scenario where Oscar Grant wouldn’t receive far more time for a far lesser mistake than Mehserle got. And as I recall from reading about My Lai, even the fall guy, William Calley, never served a day in prison. And, of course, nary a week goes by that one of our video-game warriors doesn’t unload a drone-driven bomb on civilians over Afghanistan. (Far less thrilling than My Lai, perhaps, but only from the joy stick end; in fact I’d say I’ve got a little more sympathy for Calley than those dumping bombs from afar — at least he had to clean the blood off his clothes.)
Which is just a long way of saying that I guess I’ll have to reserve judgment on law enforcement. When I start seeing some crimes worthy of the name being enforced so’s I can see what the concept actually looks like, I’ll make my decision then.
PSmoker,
Oh, there are many laws I break; some I would feel some guilt in getting caught for (say, driving over the limit, which I understand make sense) and some that would just plain piss me off (like say, getting busted for smoking a joint which is a bullshit law based on some paper baron’s lobbying in the 20s or 30s). The nature of the law itself is always the point of constitutional democracy and although I study utopian thought, I’m not so naive as to think you can ever actually iron that shit out perfectly. One’s boat always moves with the waves. But I’ve lived in enough places without real law enforcement to know that somewhere between martial law and whatever-the-fuck-rolls-rolls-downhill there’s a more satisfying medium.
And while my phonetic transcriptions of Vietnamese are admittedly clumsy, I would in fact love a Mai Tai
. Just short a few ingredients I’m afraid. Problems to solve tomorrow…
I understand where you’re coming from, Ian, but I keep hitting this sticking point: what do you do with a constitutional democracy that pays no attention to its own constitution? From where I’m sitting, we do live in a country where whatever-the-fuck-rolls-downhill is the norm. It’s just that the absolute lawlessness is usually aimed outwards. Maybe I’m forgetting something, but I can’t remember a single period in my life when we weren’t bombing a civilian population or propping up brutal, corrupt quisling governments. All most all of it in clear violation of treaties we’ve made with other nations and/or international law. Which, of course, given that the constitution’s pretty clear about what the priority of treaties made with other nations is supposed to be, makes me wonder why the pretense of law is even bothered with. (And I won’t even touch on those 400 foundational treaties made with Indian nations, all of which have been violated.)
Where I was going with the above was that the nature of law is only relevant if the law is obeyed by all. That old saw about being “a nation of laws, not men.” But if the government itself is in a constant state of illegality vis-a-vis it’s own constitution, then there is no law worthy of the name. It’s a joke.
As to the other side, the laws imposed on the citizens, well, I’d argue they put us amongst the most arbitrary, authoritarian states in the history of the world. And I’d offer up one piece of evidence for that: we have, right now, more people in prison than any nation in the history of the world, including Soviet Russia. And the vast majority have been incarcerated for victimless crimes.
The speed limits “make sense,” Ian?
Really?
Care to explain the basis upon which you arrived at that rather interesting conclusion?
I’d be especially interested in any data you’re relying on that suggests a net gain in “public safety” resulting from enforcing certain limits on expressway travel speed — say, 65 vs. 75 mph, or 75 vs. 85 mph — rather than merely a hefty increase in state revenues.
WHAT “expressway travel speeds,” Porker?
My experience is that every expressway in the country is perpetually lined with orange barrels. Which means that the posted travel speed is roughly the same as that on an in-town thoroughfare.
Such “construction zone” speed limits—and “fines double for speeding” penalties—are typically maintained 24-7 even though workers are usually present about 10-12 hours per day, 6 days a week, at most.
Good point, Driver.
Look at what you can do with a long zoom perspective camera angle (like photos that show an enormous moon next to a nearby building). This seems like a movie: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=7545188
oh yes – maybe you caught that Oscar Grant was sitting on the platform calling his fiance that he was being detained. Then he turned on the camera phone and sent her a photo of Mehserle with his taser out, before Mehserle put the taser back in the left holder and ordered Grant to lie down. The photo he took of Mehserle is online. Next, his partner Pirone may have excited him by calling Grant a nigger twice, then you can see in the video that he pulled the gun out (right side) when not much was happening, but he told a nearby coworker that he thought he had been reaching for something in his waistband. My interpretation is that he was an easily startled, poorly trained TSA agent type. It wouldn’t make sense to tase someone in that situation where he was lying on his face and hadn’t been struggling. It would only make sense to shoot rather than tase if he thought someone was reaching for a gun.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/06/09/18650265.php#18652284
oh, related to the author ID who posted Grant’s photo above – look at this story about what happened to him when he showed up with his freelance press pass to photograph a tuition protest at the local college. The UC police after a vandalism event and arrested onlookers, as the culprit fled 5 minutes ago. They literally accused them of terrorism, under political pressure. School police expect an easier job, and mainly evict the homeless and write alcohol tickets. One of their staff was awake and spotted Philip Garrido, who had aroused nobody else’s suspicions for years.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/04/20/18645234.php